Comments on: Beware new comment spam http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/ Algorithm analysis, Web community relationship analysis, SEO practices and techniques, industry news, etc. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:48:35 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Justin-Goldberg http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1700 Justin-Goldberg Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:00:33 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1700 Sheesh, El Google is finally getting around to telling us what most SEO's (black, grey, or white-hat) have known for years! Of course they are using data from blogs for ranking/quality/signals. They have a Blog search engine full of spam! Sheesh, El Google is finally getting around to telling us what most SEO’s (black, grey, or white-hat) have known for years!

Of course they are using data from blogs for ranking/quality/signals. They have a Blog search engine full of spam!

]]> By: Michael Martinez http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1696 Michael Martinez Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:01:57 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1696 UPDATE: Moderating comments is Old Hat for me, folks. UPDATE: Moderating comments is Old Hat for me, folks.

]]> By: Michael Martinez http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1685 Michael Martinez Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:47:32 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1685 I'm aware of the DoFollow link builders. I should hope they won't come sniffing around my blogs, though, as I am now a firm believer in using "rel='nofollow'" on all links in comments. There is considerable irony in my position but that is just the way I think. :) I’m aware of the DoFollow link builders. I should hope they won’t come sniffing around my blogs, though, as I am now a firm believer in using “rel=’nofollow’” on all links in comments.

There is considerable irony in my position but that is just the way I think. :)

]]> By: chouputra http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1683 chouputra Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:56:31 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1683 I don't know if the person who posted on your comment is using automated tool but there are a good number of people who do manually post on comments and writing keyword such as "make quick money" as their name on blogs that provides dofollow hyperlink on comments. I don’t know if the person who posted on your comment is using automated tool but there are a good number of people who do manually post on comments and writing keyword such as “make quick money” as their name on blogs that provides dofollow hyperlink on comments.

]]> By: Michael Martinez http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 Michael Martinez Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:25:28 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1679 Akismet is a very good tool to have. But spammers are constantly probing the defenses. They eventually figure out ways to get around the most recent updates to any tool. Akismet is a very good tool to have. But spammers are constantly probing the defenses. They eventually figure out ways to get around the most recent updates to any tool.

]]> By: nigelburke http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1678 nigelburke Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:31:46 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1678 What about installing the anti-spam comment plugins that are available for Wordpress? Are they effective in blocking spam comments? What about installing the anti-spam comment plugins that are available for Wordpress? Are they effective in blocking spam comments?

]]> By: Michael Martinez http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1677 Michael Martinez Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:42 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1677 Brian, I find that publishing only a partial RSS feed invites fewer comments. That helps me keep the comments down tremendously. I also find that occasionally leaving a nofollowed link in a long comment encourages people to come out and try engaging in some commenting. You make some good points. Of course, fast indexing is the wave of the future. Some years ago someone who was once very visible in the SEO field, I think maybe DianeV, made the comment that she missed Infoseek because you could upload new page, submit it to Infoseek, see your page within an hour, and tweak it to grab a top ranking on the same day. You can almost do that with Google now in some cases.... The good old days of search engine spam are coming back. Hang on to your hats, kiddies, because Caffeine will probably empower spammers in ways people never imagined before. Brian, I find that publishing only a partial RSS feed invites fewer comments. That helps me keep the comments down tremendously.

I also find that occasionally leaving a nofollowed link in a long comment encourages people to come out and try engaging in some commenting.

You make some good points. Of course, fast indexing is the wave of the future. Some years ago someone who was once very visible in the SEO field, I think maybe DianeV, made the comment that she missed Infoseek because you could upload new page, submit it to Infoseek, see your page within an hour, and tweak it to grab a top ranking on the same day.

You can almost do that with Google now in some cases….

The good old days of search engine spam are coming back. Hang on to your hats, kiddies, because Caffeine will probably empower spammers in ways people never imagined before.

]]> By: ArcticLlama http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/10/30/beware-new-comment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-1676 ArcticLlama Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:45:51 +0000 http://www.seo-theory.com/?p=1677#comment-1676 Michael, You are making the mistake of thinking too much like the good guys. You are correct about the right ways to build links and being successful using those methods. However, there are TONS of people out there who have no interest in doing that. They want 15,000 links, and they want them now, they don't care where they come from, and they want them with zero effort. Chances are they don't even put any effort into the site that they are building the links too either. (Google "auto blogging") THAT is what a link spammer is, and this gives them another tool. Second, if you run a blog that gets 15 or 20 comments a day, filtering them out manually like described in this post is easy done. If you get closer to 50 comments a day on 5 to 10 different blogs, manual filtering is much more difficult and something that must be done with an eye toward speed. Sure, the ones that link to diet-pills-from-canada-for-super-cheap.com are easy to spot, but a clever spammer is more subtle. Nice post. I had missed this tidbit. Google's algorithm must be having some difficulty keeping up. First the blunder with the nofollow tag and now giving link spammers a new tool. Won't be long before we see a WordPress plug-in to exploit this little doozy. After all, Google has just answered every whining link marketer's big question, How do I get my site indexed faster? I can already see the forum posts -- Just make a bunch of comments in blogs that have feeds for their comments and the Google spiders will find you... Brian <a href="http://www.arcticllama.com" rel="nofollow">Freelance Writers at ArcticLlama, LLC</a> Michael,
You are making the mistake of thinking too much like the good guys. You are correct about the right ways to build links and being successful using those methods. However, there are TONS of people out there who have no interest in doing that. They want 15,000 links, and they want them now, they don’t care where they come from, and they want them with zero effort. Chances are they don’t even put any effort into the site that they are building the links too either. (Google “auto blogging”) THAT is what a link spammer is, and this gives them another tool.

Second, if you run a blog that gets 15 or 20 comments a day, filtering them out manually like described in this post is easy done. If you get closer to 50 comments a day on 5 to 10 different blogs, manual filtering is much more difficult and something that must be done with an eye toward speed. Sure, the ones that link to diet-pills-from-canada-for-super-cheap.com are easy to spot, but a clever spammer is more subtle.

Nice post. I had missed this tidbit.

Google’s algorithm must be having some difficulty keeping up. First the blunder with the nofollow tag and now giving link spammers a new tool. Won’t be long before we see a WordPress plug-in to exploit this little doozy. After all, Google has just answered every whining link marketer’s big question, How do I get my site indexed faster?

I can already see the forum posts — Just make a bunch of comments in blogs that have feeds for their comments and the Google spiders will find you…

Brian
Freelance Writers at ArcticLlama, LLC

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