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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/09/02/zz-hosting-goes-down-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1631</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about suing them.  I would say that&#039;s probably not an option for most of us.  I have continued to move sites off my ZZ Hosting account.  I was hoping to leave one behind to see when the service comes back, as I think I like their interface better than Bluehost&#039;s.

The best way to express your dissatisfaction with a service provider, in my opinion, is to take your money elsewhere.  I have not yet cancelled my ZZ Hosting account (it only costs me $8.50 a month).  I&#039;m willing to go one more month to see if they can fix their problem.

But that&#039;s necessarily good advice for everyone.  We each need to make our own decisions.  If you feel like you cannot afford to be patient, don&#039;t be.  Just find a new hosting provider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about suing them.  I would say that&#8217;s probably not an option for most of us.  I have continued to move sites off my ZZ Hosting account.  I was hoping to leave one behind to see when the service comes back, as I think I like their interface better than Bluehost&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The best way to express your dissatisfaction with a service provider, in my opinion, is to take your money elsewhere.  I have not yet cancelled my ZZ Hosting account (it only costs me $8.50 a month).  I&#8217;m willing to go one more month to see if they can fix their problem.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s necessarily good advice for everyone.  We each need to make our own decisions.  If you feel like you cannot afford to be patient, don&#8217;t be.  Just find a new hosting provider.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisc</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/09/02/zz-hosting-goes-down-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The past couple of weeks have been an absolute NIGHTMARE for me with zzhosting.

My domain-- where I&#039;d kept a wordpress blog for FOUR years (thousands of posts)-- went down at about the same time as yours, and I kept landing on that cpanel/apache page that I assume others got.

I wrote them asking them what was up, and I got an email back explaining that a RAID array went down and they were working with Dell to fix the problem (within 48 hours-- HA!).

Well, a week after that, lo and behold ELEVEN files appeared, listed in the new index page.  They were weird, random files from like 2005-- a random picture of my friend, a random html file from a previous website, an empty folder, WEIRD stuff.

However, one of those files was this weird file named info.txt, that I had never seen before-- I opened it up, and all the file contains is a list that contains 
1) some domain I&#039;ve never seen before-- something like chris.WorldWideReads.com
2) a user name this is my common username for things (not chrisc)
3) (this is the big one) A PASSWORD that I commonly use for log ins.

So anyone visiting my site could click on this file (that i&#039;ve never seen and that I didnt&#039; put there) and see my most common login name and password!  

I can&#039;t log in to delete the file (and have since had to go and change any service where I might have used that password, there are certainly dozens of others that I&#039;ve forgotten about).

Anyway, so I wrote zzhosting AGAIN, this time telling them about the mysterious info.txt file and asking them to delete it immediately for me.

About 2 days later, I finally get a response-- a form email explaining that they&#039;re making progress and all my files should be up in 48 hours... they hadn&#039;t even read the bigger complaint: that they&#039;re giving away my username and password.

I wrote them again, with the subject &quot;PLEASE ACTUALLY READ THIS-- YOU&#039;RE GIVING AWAY MY PASSWORD&quot; and explained again the problem with this weird info.txt file.

I got a reply 24 hours later that said &quot;We&#039;ll remove the file and advise when it is completed&quot;.  That was about 4 days ago. 

Today, I went to my domain-- the file was still there-- and in my inbox was a new email from support at zzhosting.  The new email says that since they haven&#039;t heard back from me, they&#039;re assuming the problem is fixed and they&#039;re closing the support ticket. 

GACKASDFKAJSh!  

I&#039;m so angry right now-- not only am I pretty sure that I&#039;ve lost four years worth of blogging and comments-- but as of now there&#039;s still a little file on my domain giving away my username and password.  I&#039;ve been promised that both the domain would be restored and that they&#039;d delete one little file for me and they have done NOTHING about either of these issues. 

Someone mentioned something about suing these guys earlier.  Anyone know if there&#039;s grounds to sue over this?  Could a class-action suit work?  I don&#039;t know much about legal stuff, but I&#039;d say that their guarantee of 99.9% uptime was not fulfilled and because of that, I&#039;ve lost hundreds of hours worth of work.  Also, I was not hired for a job when they couldn&#039;t get to my online resume and portfolio that was hosted at zzhosting.  Those are starting to sound like real monetary losses to me.

--Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The past couple of weeks have been an absolute NIGHTMARE for me with zzhosting.</p>
<p>My domain&#8211; where I&#8217;d kept a wordpress blog for FOUR years (thousands of posts)&#8211; went down at about the same time as yours, and I kept landing on that cpanel/apache page that I assume others got.</p>
<p>I wrote them asking them what was up, and I got an email back explaining that a RAID array went down and they were working with Dell to fix the problem (within 48 hours&#8211; HA!).</p>
<p>Well, a week after that, lo and behold ELEVEN files appeared, listed in the new index page.  They were weird, random files from like 2005&#8211; a random picture of my friend, a random html file from a previous website, an empty folder, WEIRD stuff.</p>
<p>However, one of those files was this weird file named info.txt, that I had never seen before&#8211; I opened it up, and all the file contains is a list that contains<br />
1) some domain I&#8217;ve never seen before&#8211; something like chris.WorldWideReads.com<br />
2) a user name this is my common username for things (not chrisc)<br />
3) (this is the big one) A PASSWORD that I commonly use for log ins.</p>
<p>So anyone visiting my site could click on this file (that i&#8217;ve never seen and that I didnt&#8217; put there) and see my most common login name and password!  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t log in to delete the file (and have since had to go and change any service where I might have used that password, there are certainly dozens of others that I&#8217;ve forgotten about).</p>
<p>Anyway, so I wrote zzhosting AGAIN, this time telling them about the mysterious info.txt file and asking them to delete it immediately for me.</p>
<p>About 2 days later, I finally get a response&#8211; a form email explaining that they&#8217;re making progress and all my files should be up in 48 hours&#8230; they hadn&#8217;t even read the bigger complaint: that they&#8217;re giving away my username and password.</p>
<p>I wrote them again, with the subject &#8220;PLEASE ACTUALLY READ THIS&#8211; YOU&#8217;RE GIVING AWAY MY PASSWORD&#8221; and explained again the problem with this weird info.txt file.</p>
<p>I got a reply 24 hours later that said &#8220;We&#8217;ll remove the file and advise when it is completed&#8221;.  That was about 4 days ago. </p>
<p>Today, I went to my domain&#8211; the file was still there&#8211; and in my inbox was a new email from support at zzhosting.  The new email says that since they haven&#8217;t heard back from me, they&#8217;re assuming the problem is fixed and they&#8217;re closing the support ticket. </p>
<p>GACKASDFKAJSh!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m so angry right now&#8211; not only am I pretty sure that I&#8217;ve lost four years worth of blogging and comments&#8211; but as of now there&#8217;s still a little file on my domain giving away my username and password.  I&#8217;ve been promised that both the domain would be restored and that they&#8217;d delete one little file for me and they have done NOTHING about either of these issues. </p>
<p>Someone mentioned something about suing these guys earlier.  Anyone know if there&#8217;s grounds to sue over this?  Could a class-action suit work?  I don&#8217;t know much about legal stuff, but I&#8217;d say that their guarantee of 99.9% uptime was not fulfilled and because of that, I&#8217;ve lost hundreds of hours worth of work.  Also, I was not hired for a job when they couldn&#8217;t get to my online resume and portfolio that was hosted at zzhosting.  Those are starting to sound like real monetary losses to me.</p>
<p>&#8211;Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/09/02/zz-hosting-goes-down-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what to say.  The most credible rumor I saw was pretty vicious but I don&#039;t want to engage in rumor-mongering.  I&#039;m not ready cancel my account but I&#039;ve moved all but one of my active domains from ZZ Hosting to Bluehost.

The one remaining domain is online.  They brought it back about 36 hours ago, give or take.

I&#039;m sure their tech staff is working hard, but this issue is really immense and I just feel they need to be more open with the customers about whatever happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what to say.  The most credible rumor I saw was pretty vicious but I don&#8217;t want to engage in rumor-mongering.  I&#8217;m not ready cancel my account but I&#8217;ve moved all but one of my active domains from ZZ Hosting to Bluehost.</p>
<p>The one remaining domain is online.  They brought it back about 36 hours ago, give or take.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure their tech staff is working hard, but this issue is really immense and I just feel they need to be more open with the customers about whatever happened.</p>
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		<title>By: JJDavis</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/09/02/zz-hosting-goes-down-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1625</link>
		<dc:creator>JJDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two accounts with ZZ Hosting, and all the sites on one are working fine, and all the sites on the other are down for the count.

The only thing I&#039;ve received in reply to my help tickets is this cryptic message:  &quot;We need to file-check against every account manually before restoring it. This is the reason for the delay. It will be completed within 5-6 hours. I hope you understand the hard-time.&quot;  

That 5-6 hours was up days ago, and still nothing.  Today I gave up and began the process of moving the affected sites over to HostGator.  This is a shame because I have been quite happy with ZZ Hosting, having used them for four years now with only minor problems, and they&#039;ve always responded almost instantly to any support requests.

I&#039;m wondering if they&#039;re going belly-up...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two accounts with ZZ Hosting, and all the sites on one are working fine, and all the sites on the other are down for the count.</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;ve received in reply to my help tickets is this cryptic message:  &#8220;We need to file-check against every account manually before restoring it. This is the reason for the delay. It will be completed within 5-6 hours. I hope you understand the hard-time.&#8221;  </p>
<p>That 5-6 hours was up days ago, and still nothing.  Today I gave up and began the process of moving the affected sites over to HostGator.  This is a shame because I have been quite happy with ZZ Hosting, having used them for four years now with only minor problems, and they&#8217;ve always responded almost instantly to any support requests.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if they&#8217;re going belly-up&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/09/02/zz-hosting-goes-down-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1624</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;lacisoft&lt;/strong&gt;: &quot;I don’t understand why would anyone with your expertise level use hosting providers like ZZ Hosting and Bluehost. &quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Michael&lt;/strong&gt;: Your curiosity is understandable.  However, the sites I host with these services are personal sites that I have never discussed publicly. For my larger brand sites, like Xenite.Org and SF-Fandom, I use dedicated server hosting -- but I can share plenty of painful horror stories about all levels of dedicated hosting.

I feel it&#039;s good to know how all levels of the market work as much as possible.  Many people start out their Web experience with small hosting accounts like those you can get from ZZ Hosting and Bluehost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>lacisoft</strong>: &#8220;I don’t understand why would anyone with your expertise level use hosting providers like ZZ Hosting and Bluehost. &#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Michael</strong>: Your curiosity is understandable.  However, the sites I host with these services are personal sites that I have never discussed publicly. For my larger brand sites, like Xenite.Org and SF-Fandom, I use dedicated server hosting &#8212; but I can share plenty of painful horror stories about all levels of dedicated hosting.</p>
<p>I feel it&#8217;s good to know how all levels of the market work as much as possible.  Many people start out their Web experience with small hosting accounts like those you can get from ZZ Hosting and Bluehost.</p>
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		<title>By: breadman</title>
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		<dc:creator>breadman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have several sites on zzhosting and all of them are down. All of them. I feel stuck. I don&#039;t know what to do. I don&#039;t have any backups. Bummer :( I just want them to be frank with me. If they don&#039;t give a crap to fix, i want them to let me know so i can find another host.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have several sites on zzhosting and all of them are down. All of them. I feel stuck. I don&#8217;t know what to do. I don&#8217;t have any backups. Bummer <img src='http://www.seo-theory.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I just want them to be frank with me. If they don&#8217;t give a crap to fix, i want them to let me know so i can find another host.</p>
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		<title>By: lacisoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>lacisoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why would anyone with your expertise level use   hosting providers like ZZ Hosting and Bluehost. There are some enterprise level hosting companies out there (more expensive indeed) that never had such issues and even if they had, i think they would handle it more professionaly. Response times beyond 30 minutes, (let&#039;s say 1 hour) for web based tickets are completely ridiculous and something that i personally don&#039;t accept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why would anyone with your expertise level use   hosting providers like ZZ Hosting and Bluehost. There are some enterprise level hosting companies out there (more expensive indeed) that never had such issues and even if they had, i think they would handle it more professionaly. Response times beyond 30 minutes, (let&#8217;s say 1 hour) for web based tickets are completely ridiculous and something that i personally don&#8217;t accept.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2009/09/02/zz-hosting-goes-down-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1621</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen some odd rumors that I don&#039;t want to repeat here.  I cannot confirm anything at this point, except that I&#039;m still not seeing what I should be seeing.

As far as I know, ZZ Hosting has always had a good reputation and I&#039;ve used them for at least two years without any real issues.

But the way they are handling the current situation is not satisfactory to me.

Thanks for sharing your experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen some odd rumors that I don&#8217;t want to repeat here.  I cannot confirm anything at this point, except that I&#8217;m still not seeing what I should be seeing.</p>
<p>As far as I know, ZZ Hosting has always had a good reputation and I&#8217;ve used them for at least two years without any real issues.</p>
<p>But the way they are handling the current situation is not satisfactory to me.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experience.</p>
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