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	<title>Comments on: Leveraging Web databases to build conversion-driving queries</title>
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		<title>By: edwardb</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2008/05/27/leveraging-web-databases-to-build-conversion-driving-queries/comment-page-1/#comment-954</link>
		<dc:creator>edwardb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I skimmed through it, enjoyed it and got the point (I think) pretty rapidly.

I think the travel site data example is a very good one, I&#039;ve often thought the same - a lot of the time you just want information, not to be forced into form filling and the whole purchasing process. (Gee that sounds almost like a doorway page doesn&#039;t it!) And surely that is what the web is (was?) about - availability of information. Maybe the way forward is to start a suitably web 2.0 maps/twitter/flickr/etc etc social mashup with flight and price data fed to you by the user on their cellphone :)

Basically you create something pioneering founded on information you already collect, and of such uniqueness and value to the user that it does its own SEO to a large extent. 

But then its late here in the UK, I&#039;m no expert, and maybe I skimmed it too quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I skimmed through it, enjoyed it and got the point (I think) pretty rapidly.</p>
<p>I think the travel site data example is a very good one, I&#8217;ve often thought the same &#8211; a lot of the time you just want information, not to be forced into form filling and the whole purchasing process. (Gee that sounds almost like a doorway page doesn&#8217;t it!) And surely that is what the web is (was?) about &#8211; availability of information. Maybe the way forward is to start a suitably web 2.0 maps/twitter/flickr/etc etc social mashup with flight and price data fed to you by the user on their cellphone <img src='http://www.seo-theory.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Basically you create something pioneering founded on information you already collect, and of such uniqueness and value to the user that it does its own SEO to a large extent. </p>
<p>But then its late here in the UK, I&#8217;m no expert, and maybe I skimmed it too quick.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2008/05/27/leveraging-web-databases-to-build-conversion-driving-queries/comment-page-1/#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I set out to write this post with a clear idea in mind but was drawn into a meeting (which I knew about in advance) and found my thoughts a bit cluttered.  I set the post aside for a while but never really found the time to write it the way I wanted to.

I decided to include the &quot;ugly&quot; points thinking I could come back later and expand.  I think that really needs a different post now.  A few people in the SEO industry have poked fun at me for using simple, ugly Web design.  But there are reasons why I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I set out to write this post with a clear idea in mind but was drawn into a meeting (which I knew about in advance) and found my thoughts a bit cluttered.  I set the post aside for a while but never really found the time to write it the way I wanted to.</p>
<p>I decided to include the &#8220;ugly&#8221; points thinking I could come back later and expand.  I think that really needs a different post now.  A few people in the SEO industry have poked fun at me for using simple, ugly Web design.  But there are reasons why I do.</p>
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		<title>By: harrypxx</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2008/05/27/leveraging-web-databases-to-build-conversion-driving-queries/comment-page-1/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator>harrypxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was originally going to come in just to have a pop at the first poster, as I think your blog is consistently thought-provoking and well-written. I for one am glad not to have to read any more regurgitated &quot;top SEO tips&quot; in an easy-to-swallow bullet-point list format. Sometimes a more complex idea will require readers to have a longer attention span...

A couple of comments. 

First, I&#039;d very much like to get your take on what Amazon are doing in this area, as it seems to me that they have had some success with republishing and reslicing aggregated and analysed customer data.

Second, when I got to the five or six paragraphs that begin &quot;In other words, ugly works...&quot; I felt the merest twinge of sympathy for &#039;dynamic&#039; - it seemed to me that your train of thought, usually so clear, got somewhat sidelined here and I had to read them through a couple of times to follow the different threads.

Well worth the effort though. Do keep writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was originally going to come in just to have a pop at the first poster, as I think your blog is consistently thought-provoking and well-written. I for one am glad not to have to read any more regurgitated &#8220;top SEO tips&#8221; in an easy-to-swallow bullet-point list format. Sometimes a more complex idea will require readers to have a longer attention span&#8230;</p>
<p>A couple of comments. </p>
<p>First, I&#8217;d very much like to get your take on what Amazon are doing in this area, as it seems to me that they have had some success with republishing and reslicing aggregated and analysed customer data.</p>
<p>Second, when I got to the five or six paragraphs that begin &#8220;In other words, ugly works&#8230;&#8221; I felt the merest twinge of sympathy for &#8216;dynamic&#8217; &#8211; it seemed to me that your train of thought, usually so clear, got somewhat sidelined here and I had to read them through a couple of times to follow the different threads.</p>
<p>Well worth the effort though. Do keep writing.</p>
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		<title>By: DangerMouse</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2008/05/27/leveraging-web-databases-to-build-conversion-driving-queries/comment-page-1/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>DangerMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally bothered registering with this site simply to rebutt the first comment here. Whilst I would agree that the style is fairly discursive, and even long winded, the principles enunciated often need hammering home by virtue of the fact that they are under appreciated within the SEO industry.

Too many SEOs think they are being innovative simply by applying age old marketing concepts to a new medium. I prefer grounded theory rather than sensationalism and this blog achieves that.

However, I can empathise with the sentiment in the first post here to the extent that often implementation details would be appreciated. I can understand why this may not be possible, nonetheless tips on how to implement a visualised version of a multi plane model for analysising ranking for example (as per previous posts) would be appreciated. Whilst it appears fairly obvious to me that a multitude of factors have a bearing and can be tracked and worked into a model, a strategy for working with this data is more difficult to come by. Maybe it just requires hardwork lol.

Just some thoughts.

DM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally bothered registering with this site simply to rebutt the first comment here. Whilst I would agree that the style is fairly discursive, and even long winded, the principles enunciated often need hammering home by virtue of the fact that they are under appreciated within the SEO industry.</p>
<p>Too many SEOs think they are being innovative simply by applying age old marketing concepts to a new medium. I prefer grounded theory rather than sensationalism and this blog achieves that.</p>
<p>However, I can empathise with the sentiment in the first post here to the extent that often implementation details would be appreciated. I can understand why this may not be possible, nonetheless tips on how to implement a visualised version of a multi plane model for analysising ranking for example (as per previous posts) would be appreciated. Whilst it appears fairly obvious to me that a multitude of factors have a bearing and can be tracked and worked into a model, a strategy for working with this data is more difficult to come by. Maybe it just requires hardwork lol.</p>
<p>Just some thoughts.</p>
<p>DM</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2008/05/27/leveraging-web-databases-to-build-conversion-driving-queries/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did include some very specific examples in the post.  What other types of examples would you prefer?  I would be glad to discuss a couple of different verticals here in the comments if other people share your frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did include some very specific examples in the post.  What other types of examples would you prefer?  I would be glad to discuss a couple of different verticals here in the comments if other people share your frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: kinetic</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-theory.com/2008/05/27/leveraging-web-databases-to-build-conversion-driving-queries/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>kinetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m a little tired of all this website...you always take a simple subject and instead of answering normally in a couple of lines you put 54765847 words around it who doesn&#039;t mean anything... these posts are so long that you always manage to change subject in the way..at the end we don&#039;t even remember what the post was about...yeah you have those theory and stuff..but what about giving us examples to prove your &quot;theory&quot;...i could be useful to have something to start with and not just a big cloud of theory...because without real facts and examples there is no point of having this post...you write about bloggers who don&#039;t post anything useful..sorry to say,i think you are one of them..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a little tired of all this website&#8230;you always take a simple subject and instead of answering normally in a couple of lines you put 54765847 words around it who doesn&#8217;t mean anything&#8230; these posts are so long that you always manage to change subject in the way..at the end we don&#8217;t even remember what the post was about&#8230;yeah you have those theory and stuff..but what about giving us examples to prove your &#8220;theory&#8221;&#8230;i could be useful to have something to start with and not just a big cloud of theory&#8230;because without real facts and examples there is no point of having this post&#8230;you write about bloggers who don&#8217;t post anything useful..sorry to say,i think you are one of them..</p>
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